R141 - yes! That’s been talked about for years! I’ve heard it at parties, bars, BBQs, here and out on the island. Usually something along the lines of “you know, it’s so-and-so’s son, right? his father got the cops to help protect his son” gets said and heads start nodding in agreement.

The story that sounded most plausible to me was they found one of the bodies, things point to the son, father gets police chief somehow to help cover it up, he does but time goes by and more bodies found, cover up goes on, more involved, all in too deep to come clean without def jail time. Apparently tho, a whole lot of politicos and cops are shitting themselves now after those who orchestrated the initial cover up are either convicted or under investigation for corruption. Everyone’s waiting for that one guy to finally offer it all up for a deal.

R164 - I remember when the flight crashed in Queens - it was right after the concert at MSG for 9/11 where some drunk NYPD or FDNY invited Bin Laden to come kiss his Irish ass at an address that was only a few blocks from where the plane crashed. I have some family who live down there very near the crash, knew the ones killed on the ground, the whole neighborhood was a mess with wondering if this was because of what was said at MSG. But given that flight was headed to the Dominican Republic, I highly doubt it was deliberate. Just a tragedy with eerie coincidences related to then current events.

As for lots of people moving from there - I have call false on that. These neighborhoods-Belle Harbor, Neponsit, Breezy Point-are practically restricted neighborhoods within NYC. People grow up there, marry, buy their own place there. People usually sell by word of mouth. Good luck finding any dark complexions (beyond a summer tan) there other than workers. Hell, the residents complain every year the families from flight come down on the anniversary! They even tried to get the local RC church to not have a memorial mass!

These neighborhoods have some beautiful beaches, and are the closest beaches to some minority heavy neighborhoods but thanks to some Political shenanigans a few decades ago, no street parking from Memorial Day to Labor Day. In essence, they treat the beaches as their own private beach. Mostly Irish, Italian, and some Jewish make up the demographics. I still wonder how so many firefighters, teachers, police, can afford the houses down there when a fixer upper starts in the $700k’s.

But, they all cleaned up with Build It Back money to this day - I know one guy who is just now getting some $150k from some State agency because of supposed heretofore undiscovered foundation issues from Sandy damage requiring him to tear down and rebuild his house.

So yeah, lot of crocks down there too - and a lot intermarried into one family that own tons of property all over these neighborhoods, as well as the rest of the Rockaways and Broad Channel.

Sorry for going off on a tangent!

More mysteries, and theories please!!